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Monday, January 20, 2014

Monday Musings: P.K Subban is Too Much for Don Cherry?

Happy Monday, Habs Addicts!

Photo Credit: TSN.CA
Well we had quite an interesting week this week.  Three games were played, with Montreal starting the week with a 4-1 loss at home to the New Jersey Devils, followed up by an entertaining 5-4 overtime win in Ottawa and a prime-time, Hockey Night in Canada rivalry match-up against the Maple Leafs that resulted in an entertaining and disappointing 5-3 defeat. As we all know, P.K. Subban celebrated his overtime goal against the Senators by emphatically tugging his jersey and kissing the logo as he left the ice, riling up Senators fans while showing tremendous CH pride to the Habs fans in attendance.  This came back to haunt him on Saturday, as James Van Riemsdyk mocked the move with a jersey tug of his own after scoring the game-winning goal. Don Cherry also voiced his opinion on the matter and thus Jersey-Tug-Gate has been born. That recaps the week in a paragraph, now onto my musings.

- Two of the leagues elder statesmen, Jaromir Jagr and Martin Brodeur (both 41 years old), each had stellar performances against the Habs in a 4-1 victory this past Tuesday.  Jagr scored his 14th goal of the season - and 695th of his career, surpassing Mark Messier for 7th most all-time - and also chipped in an assist.  Martin Brodeur stopped 29 of 30 shots and was named 1st star of the game in what may have been his last appearance in Montreal.  The Habs played a flat game and left Carey Price without much support. Price also had an off-night, allowing 4 goals on only 19 shots.  Overall, this game mirrored the performance we saw the previous week against the Philadelphia Flyers.  Sure the Habs outshot the Devils, but that total is deceiving as Brodeur was rarely challenged. This game served as another reminder of what could have been, as its no secret that Jagr has wanted to play in Montreal and has had several opportunities to sign here the past few seasons as a free-agent.  Future Hall-of-Famer, 6'4", 240-lbs, tremendous work ethic and amazing mentor to players like Alex Galchenyuk, Brendan Gallagher and Michael Bournival? Who wouldn't want that in the lineup?  But no, instead Marc Bergevin decided to spend the same money on Daniel Briere.  For the record, Briere had 0 points and 1 shot on goal in 18:09 minutes of ice time and has 1 assist in his past 5 games.  Fantastic.

- Carey Price called his performance against the Senators one of his best games of the season. Hard to argue when you see the highlights and some of the saves he had in the 5-4 overtime win.  Ottawa dominated the action in this game after the Habs jumped to an early 3-0 advantage.  Price did allow 4 goals on 44 shots, but this game easily could have mimicked the 9-1 shellacking the Anaheim Ducks put on the Vancouver Canucks the night before had Price not stood on his head.  Price had absolutely no help from his defenders and was left to fend for himself on numerous occasions and came up big.  The Habs, to their credit, fought back to tie the game before P.K. Subban notched the game winning goal in overtime.  What happened after that is the widely debated jersey-tugging incident.  Unfortunately Subban's exuberant celebration took some of the limelight away from the performance of Price and also set up a rant from Don Cherry on his Coach's Corner segment this past Saturday. To summarize, here's an excerpt from Coach's Corner:

“I love Subban. I’ve known him since he’s been a kid. I’m the guy that pumped him and pumped him ... I’m the guy that pumped for the Team Canada, the whole deal. This is one of the reasons they did not want him; because of what he did in Ottawa ...  And all he does is pump up the other team. He has to stop that stuff. I thought he’d stop it ... It’s absolutely ridiculous. Don’t give ammunition ... And Subban had better stop that stuff when he goes to Team Canada."   - Don Cherry, Coach's Corner, CBC
Subban showed a lot of emotion, especially after scoring the goal. He fell after shooting and upon seeing the puck in the net, left his stick in the crease as he went tearing to his teammates to celebrate the victory.  Leaving the ice, he took a page out of Alex Galchenyuk's book and emphatically tugged his jersey and gave the logo a kiss, paying homage to the CH and the fans in attendance.  It also served to rile up the Senators and their fans.  And Don Cherry.  Last I checked, Don Cherry has found ways to rile up just everyone in hockey at some point in his career, nevermind the overly flamboyant suits he wears during his broadcasts.  For a guy who draws more attention to himself and his comments on Saturday nights than the game usually does, I think calling out Subban for being an excited kid who gets caught up in the moment is a little bit hypocritical, Grapes.  Does Subban's actions get under the skin of his opponents? Yup. Does it serve to motivate the other team?  Maybe a little. Impact is probably overrated by the media. These are professional athletes, playing an 82-game season. Maybe bulletin-board material would work in a short series or a key game, not so much for a random mid-season matchup.

-  Further adding fuel to the Jersey-Tug-Gate fire, James Van Riemsdyk celebrated his eventual game-winning-goal on Saturday night with a jersey tug of his own, directed at P.K. Subban.  Needless to say, the press was all over this one in the game recap.  Van Riemsdyk claims he only celebrated his goal in this manner after Subban apparently taunted the Leaf's bench after Montreal scored a goal in the first period.  I'm no expert, but I would analyze that the taunting in the first period had less to do with it and the more likely cause was the fact that Subban and Van Riemsdyk played a very chippy and very physical game against one another the entire evening. There were numerous altercations along the boards and words spoken between the two.  Did Subban say something to the Leaf's bench? Probably.  Are comments made all night, every night in hockey games? Absolutely. Should we be concerned with Subban's actions? I say no. Subban surely doesn't care about the issue.  Lets face it, he has personality. He has talent. He has a Norris Trophy. If Bergevin wanted to move him, 29 other GM's will come calling.  Does he need to mature on the ice? Of course he does. He's only 24 years old. The upside is tremendous. Let him play his game.

- Overall, the Leafs and Habs played a spirited affair in the 5-3 Leafs win.  Michel Therrien played a young rookie, Joonas Nattinen over the consistently-under-producing Rene Bourque.  Nattinen saw 1:45 of ice time.  Or half that of George Parros. Parros was on the ice for a goal against in his 3:03. Nathan Beaulieu played 13+ minutes in place of Douglas Murray, and has since remained up with the club.  How much he plays is yet to be determined. Marc Bergevin should be concerned with Therrien's handling of the young players. Against Toronto, Carey Price stood tall while the defensive effort again collapsed around him. Hard to fault him on most of the goals and the fifth goal of the game was an empty-net goal.  

This week saw the defensive effort crumble, as the Devils, Senators and Leafs scored 4, 4 and 5 goals against, respectively.  In the past 10 games, the Habs have allowed 4+ goals seven times. Seven. When your offense is barely producing, you can't be allowing that many goals.  Somehow Montreal has managed to go 4-4-2 in those 10 games, with 2 of those victories also coming in overtime. Therrien came to Montreal as a changed man, so to speak.  New Michel Therrien lasted half a shortened season.  Since the middle of last year, the Habs have played like a .500 hockey team and suffered an embarrassing playoff round loss to the Senators.  Therrien needs to figure out what he has with this hockey club and soon, because another swoon and first-round playoff exit could - and should - cost him his job. Right now, he has the leash he needs to turn it around but with the glaring problems that need to be addressed with his handling of young players, overall game management and consistency, its hard to see him righting the ship anytime soon.

This weeks games include matchups on the road in Pittsburgh to face Sidney Crosby's Penguins on Wednesday, followed by an original-six battle in Detroit on Friday night. The Habs return home to Alex Ovechkin and the Washington Capitals on Saturday. With the defensive showing we saw this past week, going 0-3 and allowing 15 goals against is a very distinct possibility. 


Three (or Four) Questions from my musings:

A) i) Should the Habs have signed Jagr over Daniel Briere this past off-season?
A) ii) Should the Habs attempt to acquire Jaromir Jagr from the Devils at the trade deadline?

B) Does P.K. Subban need to shelve his celebratory style in order to avoid 'motivating' the opponents?

C) Does the defensive performance of the past 10 games reflect a disturbing trend or is it simply a blip on the radar that happens to all teams during a long season?



Saturday, April 7, 2012

Habs/Leafs, Last Day, Grapes, Budaj, CKCU and More

Mikhail Grabovski - Toronto Maple Leafs v Ottawa Senators
Good morning Hab addicts!

So, what are you doing with your Saturday?

If you said 'watching hockey', that is the correct answer.

All 30 NHL teams are in action today and, although playoff teams have been set, today's contests are rife with post-season implications.

Starting at 1 PM EST, Chicago and Detroit faceoff in a nationally televised match up and then, for us lucky Canadians, a triple-header is being offered by CBC.

In the middle of this three game treat, Montreal and Toronto meet to end their miserable campaigns. Other than marking the end of a not-so-memorable campaign for both clubs, this game is actually devoid of any implication.

Even in the jockeying for a lottery pick, Montreal is already assured of a bottom-three finish, win or lose.

What games will you be watching today?

Habs News

HabsAddict.com - Louis Moustakas on CKCU's Red Zone

Faceoff.com - Hickey: Spacek's trade hard on his family

Faceoff.com - Stubbs: Grapes flabbergasted by Habs' turmoil

HabsWorld.net - Writers Weigh In: Gauthier's Gone, Part Two 

HabsWorld.net - Not enough Budaj

TSN - Leafs-Habs meet with nothing but lottery positions at stake

Hockey News

ESPN - 5 Things: Canada, realignment, predictions

The Hockey News - NCAA Frozen Four: Boston College, Ferris State prepare for David vs. Goliath final

The Hockey News - Dr. Boucher: The myth of mental toughness

TSN - Chipman: Jets wanted playoffs but NHL return still great

TSN - Dreger's Mailbag: Leafs, Flames facing tough questions


(Photo by Jana Chytilova/Freestyle Photo/Getty Images North America)

Monday, October 17, 2011

The Sunday Shinny - Oct. 17, 2011 - Don Cherry, Fighting, Head Shots, Habs, Asham and more

In this episode of the Sunday Shinny, Nick Murdocco, Gary Whittaker and Kamal Panesar welcome Danielle Fernandes - Founder/President of Dangle Media to the studio.

Topics include:
-Is wanting to take head shots out of hockey the same as wanting to get fighting out?
-Or are some jumping on the bandwagon
-Is there a solution?
-Will it ever be taken out?
-Is Don Cherry jumping the shark?
-Why single out players like Nilan and Grimson?
-Should he make an exception and recant (watch coaches corner tonight and adjust)
-Aaron Asham gesture after his fight…. Overreacting? Him or the fans?

Click play below to listen in (listing time 52:42):

Head shots, Cole, Kostitsyn, Crosby, Kessel, Leafs, Jets, Ducks, Cherry, Doughty, Asham and more...

Habs News
HabsAddict.com - Montreal Canadiens Plus and Minus and a New Sunday Shinny Podcast
http://www.habsaddict.com/2011/10/montreal-canadiens-plus-and-minus-and.html

The Sunday Shinny Podcast - Oct. 17, 2011 - Don Cherry, Fighting, Head Shots, Habs, Asham and more
http://pc.habsaddict.com/2011/10/sunday-shinny-oct-17-2011-don-cherry.html

Head Shot, Depression, Substance Abuse and Suicide; a dangerous game
http://www.habsaddict.com/2011/10/heat-shot-depression-substance-abuse.html

Erik Cole, Andrei Kostitsyn Underwhelm Early
http://www.habsaddict.com/2011/10/erik-cole-andrei-kostitsyn-underwhelm.html

HabsWorld.net - HW Recap: Home not-so-sweet home
http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=2611

Habs Future
http://www.hockeyinsideout.com/news/habs-future-7

Max Pacioretty finds silver lining to his injury
http://www.hockeyinsideout.com/news/max-pacioretty-finds-silver-lining-to-his-injury


NHL News
TSN - SIEGEL: KESSEL EVOLVING INTO UNLIKELY LEADER
http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=378267

BEYAK: NOEL NOT SUBSCRIBING TO 'FREE YEAR' NOTION FOR JETS
http://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg/blogs/jets_report/?id=378268

GRIMSON, NILAN, THOMSON ACCEPT CHERRY'S APOLOGY
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=378263

INJURY-DEPLETED RANGERS RECALL DEFENCEMAN BELL FROM AHL
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=378264

DUCKS RECALL F MAROON FROM AHL AFFILIATE TO REPLACE BLAKE
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=378237

YAKUPOV LEADS INTERNATIONAL SCOUTING SERVICE RANKINGS
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=378277

KINGS PLACE DOUGHTY ON INJURED LIST, RECALL VOYNOV
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=378252

THN.com - Trade Talk: Turris to the Devils?
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/42366-Trade-Talk-Turris-to-the-Devils.html

Campbell: Arron Asham deserves suspension for post-fight gesture
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/42327-Campbell-Arron-Asham-deserves-suspension-for-postfight-gesture.html

Sunday, October 16, 2011

Head Shot, Depression, Substance Abuse and Suicide; a dangerous game.

The game of hockey, like society in general, is changing!

We are at a point in society where we must continuously strive to express ourselves in a politically correct manner, never disagree with the masses and conform to what is now deemed acceptable in the public eye. Those who have a point of view which differs from the norm are often ostracized or viewed as radical.

This is by no means a forum for me to express my political views. I mention this only because of the omnipresent issue which continues to plague the NHL: head shots.

Society, like the game of hockey, is changing, yet those who govern this change in the NHL appear to be doing everything in their power to make sure it remains “pure”.

These hockey purists, as they have come to be known, frown upon any and all change and will generally denounce anyone or anything that may in fact lead to change, after all “if it ain’t broke then don’t fix it”.

Now, I can understand a willingness to want to get rid of the Instigator Rule or a refusal to remove fighting altogether. Yet, when it comes to player safety, it is paramount to worry about the prevalence of head shots, depression, alcoholism and suicide.

There are those, most recently Chris Nilan and Don Cherry, who argue that the above subjects have absolutely no correlation to one another.

Unfortunately, both of these individuals have expressed an opinion based on personal experience instead of examining trends, research and studies.

Let me now say that I am a tremendous admirer of Chris Nilan for what he brought to the Montreal Canadiens. My respect for him, however, is not linked to what he did on the ice but what he did off of it. His numerous charitable endeavors for the Montreal community and the personal battles that he continues to fight are worthy of admiration. However, my respect for Nilan however will not mask the fact that he is wrong.

Nilan personally believes that there is no relationship between the role of the fighter, alcoholism, drug abuse and, ultimately, suicide. With this simple argument I can say that, yes Mr. Nilan, you are correct. You cannot scientifically prove that being a fighter in the NHL leads to depression or, in other cases, suicide. Nonetheless, you can without a doubt prove a correlation between the two.

Like anything in life your personal traits will often dictate your decisions. Why is it that some people can smoke Marijuana once or twice and be done with it, while others smoke it once and get hooked? Why is it that I can have just one drink after work whereas as some make the 5 a 7 a habitual task?

The answer: personally traits.

Whether we blame it on our upbringing, the extraneous social factors which were present during our development stages, or simply our genetic make up, the fact is that we are all different in very subtle ways. Those differences help dictate what we are, what we do, what we become and what defines us.

It is therefore extremely convenient and easy to blame the recent deaths of Rick Rypien, Wade Belak and Derek Boogaard on personal choice. After all, who are we to argue that they suffered from substance abuse or took their lives for reasons other than hockey?

Go ahead and blame society, blame their social upbringing, or anything else you can think of other than hockey. Yes, each enforcer is different. Some simply like to fight, some are lead to the role because they are good at it, some use it as a means to play profesionally and some likely just want the attention. Regardless of the reason behind this choice, the fact remains that being an NHL enforcer has certainly contributed to their passing.

It is a bold statement to make I realize, but before passing judgement look at the facts.

The Numbers Don’t Lie

I think that things get a little confusing when people make statements claiming outright that effect X causes Z, that there is a causal relation between being an enforcer or a hockey player and depression, substance abuse and suicide.

When you can count the number of suicides or attempted suicides on one hand in comparison to the amount of players who have played professional hockey then the correlation is irrelevant.

What is not considered, however, is that there is a missing variable within this correlation: traumatic brain injuries more commonly known as concussions.

Again, for the record there is absolutely, no way to prove that the role of the fighter leads to suicidal tendencies, however you can prove that traumatic brain injuries can and often do lead to suicide.

Concussions are such a grey area because there still so much we do not know. It is unknown as to why some people report symptoms for many months if not years whereas some feel the effects for less than 24 hours. Honestly, the brain is a mystery. What is not a mystery, though, is that the reported effects of concussions bear a strong resemblance.

I am not going to bore you with the in and out details of different pieces of research. There have been hundreds of studies connecting hockey, football and other contact sports with concussions. Moreover, some even theorize that playing hockey leads to brain damage, premature death or suicide. Heck, I bet if I looked deeper some might even find a link to the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa.

Regardless of the findings and theories, there are certain constants that emerge.

First, the human brain is not fully developed until you are in your mid-20’s, therefore any damage prior to full development increases the risk of permanent long term issues.

Second, when surveyed and studied, victims of concussions tend to always express the same re-occurring symptoms: anger, frustration, dizziness, nausea, confusion, anxiety, biochemical disturbance, brain damage (whether slight or severe), depression and Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE).

It is important to note however that although the symptoms are consistently reported, not all victims express the exact same symptoms. In other words, although depression or suicidal tendencies are consistent symptoms, they are not reported in all cases.

Third, there is evidence that, although not all concussions are problematic, experiencing multiple concussions can have a profound and compounding effect. The more concussions that are experienced the greater the risk for CTE, permanent brain damage and clinical depression.

Now this does not, by any means, prove a causal effect between fighting and depression, substance abuse and depression. Still, we must consider the following.

There is overwhelming evidence thar demonstrates concussions have a negative effect on reasoning, judgement and cognitive abilities. There are consistent reports of re-occuring symptoms of anxiety, depression, suicidal tendencies and CTE among concussion victims.

Ultimately, it is not known why one individual would ultimately chose to end his or her life when another individual would seek help to conquer those demons.

Regardless, is it not a safe assumption to say, that although it is difficult to prove a causal effect between the role of the enforcer and suicide, there is evidence which proves at the very least a strong and overwhelming correlation between the two?

Here you have a number of young men who battle to get to the NHL by fighting, by repeatedly being hit in the head, who report concussion like symptoms and who ultimately have taken their lives. It’s not rocket science there folks.

If these three deaths send a message, let it be that of change. Let us convince the hockey purists that yes we all like to see a bone crushing hit or a spur of the moment fight but that pointless headshots from the blindside on an unsuspecting player or the staged fights between two players who play three minutes a game are absolutely pointless and outright dangerous.

Let us learn something and not be afraid to emerge from the shadows, to be politically incorrect and just acknowledge this problem now and forever.

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Bryan is a Marketer by day, writer for HabsAddict.com by night and full time fan of the game. Follow me on twitter @BryanWilley78 but don't bother looking for me on Facebook, I'm just too old for that now!

(Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images North America)

Saturday, October 8, 2011

Erik Cole's low ice time, Cherry's Comments, Chris Nilan's reply, Winnipeg scalpers, Rumours and more...

Habs News
Hockey Inside/Out - Saturday roundup
http://www.hockeyinsideout.com/news/saturday-roundup

Cherry’s bomb backfires
http://www.hockeyinsideout.com/news/cherrys-bomb-backfires

Kuckles Nilan.com - MY REPLY TO COMMENTS MADE BY MR. CHERRY LAST NIGHT
http://www.knucklesnilan.com/my-reply-to-comments-made-by-mr-cherry-last-night/

Erik Cole comprend bien la situation
http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/327814.html

HabsWorld.net - HW Mailbag: October 7, 2011
http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=2604

NHL News
TSN - GRIMSON, NILAN, THOMSON ADDRESS CHERRY'S COMMENTS ON OTR
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=377603

WINNIPEG POLICE GO UNDERCOVER TO NAB JETS SCALPERS
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=377630

CULLEN: OPENING NIGHT NHL OBSERVATIONS
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=377599

THN.com - Kennedy: Which 2011 draft rookies will stay in the NHL?
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/42196-Kennedy-Which-2011-draft-rookies-will-stay-in-the-NHL.html

Tom Thompson: Should the NHL season start earlier?
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/42195-Tom-Thompson-Should-the-NHL-season-start-earlier.html

Spector's Hockey - NHL Rumors from the Blogosphere – October 8, 2011
http://spectorshockey.net/wordpress/category/rumors/

(Photo by Claus Andersen/Getty Images North America)

Monday, March 14, 2011

Don Cherry on Chara, Gary Bettman, Coyotes, GM meetings, Head shots and more...

News
HabsAddict.com - Don Cherry Comments on the Zdeno Chara, Max Pacioretty Hit
http://www.habsaddict.com/2011/03/don-cherry-comments-on-zdeno-chara-max.html

TSN - NHL GENERAL MANAGERS GATHER IN FLORIDA TO EXAMINE THE SPORT
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357892

CANADIENS' SOPEL OUT INDEFINITELY WITH BROKEN HAND
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357616

CULLEN: HOCKEY AT THE SLOAN SPORTS ANALYTICS CONFERENCE
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357614

MCKENZIE: WHICH WAY DOES THE NHL GO IN THE HEADSHOT DEBATE?
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=357549

NAYLOR: IS THE END OF THE COYOTES' SAGA FINALLY AT HAND?
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/dave_naylor/?id=357322

DREGER: COYOTES SITUATION COULD BECOME CLEARER NEXT WEEK
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/darren_dreger/?id=356380

ESPN.com - GMs face monumental task at meetings
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=6206193

Weekend wrap: Hits to head, concussions, equipment part of GMs meetings
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/5529/weekend-wrap-hits-to-head-concussions-equipment-part-of-gms-meetings

Parting Shot: Chara's Hit
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6212123&categoryid=2459791

Habsworld.net - HW Recap: Overcoming adversity
http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=2421

THN.com Blog: Unyielding demands for change not helping hockey
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/39029-THNcom-Blog-Unyielding-demands-for-change-not-helping-hockey.html

(Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images North America)

Don Cherry Comments on the Zdeno Chara, Max Pacioretty Hit

HNIC - Coach's Corner - Mar 12th 2011 (HD)

In case you haven't seen it yet, here is Don Cherry, on Hockey Night in Canada, talking about the Zdeno Chara hit on Max Pacioretty, the stanchions, boards and glass in Montreal and the non-suspension for Chara.



So what do you think about what Don had to say? Agree? Disagree? Or is he just a facist?